Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S Reviews - Page 2

Given 52% while driving a Chevrolet Corvette (225/45 R17) on a combination of roads for 10,000 spirited miles
I have OEM Michelin Run Flats Sport Cup 4S on my Corvette C8. Regular driving these are fine. They are DANGEROUS for track use though. These tires are UNSAFE and have batch defects in my opinion and people should be informed before someone gets hurt. I followed Chevrolet's track prep guide for the car (that says this tire can be sued on track). I have been on tracks for 15 years and have never had tires delaminate like these and fall apart after 1 session of a track day. I called Michelin and there customer service tech said it wasn't a defect or covered. He pretty much said it was my fault and never even made the time to look at the images I had. Michelin did not stand behind their product. I will NEVER buy a Michelin tire again. Sad.
Helpful 70 - tyre reviewed on October 18, 2022
Given 75% while driving a Nissan 370Z (245/40 R19) on mostly motorways for 27,000 spirited miles
I have these(245-40x19f, 275-35x19 r) on a 370z, which is a 3300lb car. Wet and dry traction along with noise and comfort have been excellent. The handling responsiveness has been a little too vague and the impulse response of the tires seems sluggish, which I attribute to the very flexible sidewalls. The one characteristic I'd like to bring out is the phenomenally low tread wear on the tires. I measured the tread depth and tweaked the inflation pressures at 1k mile intervals. I haven't been able to rotate the tires but the tread wear has been perfectly uniform across the tread on all tires. The tites now have about 37k miles on them now and are averaging slightly under 50% for remaining tread life. The tires started with 9/32” tread depth and the fronts are now at 5/32", with the rears at 4/32".
Helpful 39 - tyre reviewed on August 25, 2022
Given 77% while driving a Tesla Model S (/30 R20) on mostly motorways for 9,000 spirited miles
Model s p85 (rwd 450hp, 600nm ,2.1 tonne) A night and day difference to the stock 19"245/45 Goodyear rs-a2 all round . Switched to a 20" ps4s staggered 275/35 . Which was the perfect balance between grip, asthetetics , pot hole protection and comfort compared to the 21"s . Slightly less efficient and slightly more noise than stock ,which was to be expected with wider tires . Rears wore faster , have another 1000mi probably , fronts 2-3k more but overall very happy with them .
Helpful 33 - tyre reviewed on August 24, 2022
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Given 94% while driving a Subaru BRZ (215/45 R17) on a combination of roads for 8,500 spirited miles
If you want sporty tires for the road that you could take to the track every now and then, these are the tires for you. My 2018 BRZ Limited is a 'slow' car, but it's also one of the most fun, agile, and precise pieces of machinery I've ever had the pleasure of driving, truly a 'poor man's Porsche'. When choosing a replacement set of tires for the drift-tires it came with, I wanted a set of tires that enhanced the characteristics and dynamics of the car. Driving on a Highway with a posted speed limit of 85MPH, I can change lanes in an instant (and I mean an instant) like the path was preordained. Just an impulse-like tug of the wheel left or right and returning to center just as quickly, having completed the maneuver in a fraction of a second, I'm still driving perfectly straight in my new lane with no oversteer understeer or roll/flex. I simply transport myself from one lane to the other. It's truly a magical feeling when your car does exactly what you want, no more...no less... which is made possible by giving it the best foundation to work with. Driving on curvy county roads and being able to completely ignore the 25 or 35MPH advisory signs that recommend a 'safe' speed for tight turns, while maintaining a constant 70MPH is sublime. I couldn't do that with my old car nor it's All-Season tires, I would've flown off the road into the ditch. Purchasing the Pilot Sport 4S tires was the best decision I made next to buying my little Subi. I traded in a more practical daily-driver Ford Fusion Sport to go back to a manual trans that I could enjoy, with a grin stretching ear to ear, ever single day I sit behind the wheel. I understand that the Pilot Sport 5 are out now, but if these are still available when it's time to replace, I will 110% get the 4S again without question. For me and my vehicle, these are perfection and there's no reason to "funk" with perfection. Of course, same tires perform differently depending on the vehicle and conditions, but I think it's safe to say if you won't be disappointed with these amazing tires. The only hard data I can provide is with regards to treadwear. (Measurements done with a digital caliper of .02mm +/- tolerance.) -Length of time Owned: 16 Months -Original Tread Depth: 6.45mm -Miles Driven: 8,500 (Mixed City/Highway/County Road) -Number of Rotations: 1 -Front Current Tread Depth: 4.94 -Rear Current Tread Depth: 5.51 -Driving Style: Spirited (not reckless abandonment and no burnouts, but a few minor drifts on occasion...) Side Note: Do Not Use for Ice/Snow, they are absolutely useless. I figure this should be common knowledge at this point, being a Summer-tire and all, but just-in-case...you never know what kind of rock someone's been forced to live under. Suffice it to say, you'll need a separate set of Winter tires or at least something all-Season, like the Pilot Sport A/S, for Winter conditions. These kinds of tires may as well be slicks drenched in oil when driven on icy roads.
Helpful 19 - tyre reviewed on August 19, 2022
Given 77% while driving a Skoda (235/40 R19) on mostly country roads for 16,000 spirited miles
Skoda Superb 162tsi wagon (2019) - swapped to PS4s for more grip form the stock Pirelli P7. Corning and general back road blasting is so much better. They are mighty on the brakes and plenty of confidence they’ll stick and are predictable when they run out of grip. Sadly my set haven’t lasted long at 26,000km my first pair I had (admittedly on the front to replace two damaged tires) only did 18,000km. Note I drive plenty of course chip country B roads which might not help. I’d love to go for another set but will punt for the PS5 to hopefully get more K’s out of them.
Helpful 24 - tyre reviewed on May 30, 2022
Given 100% while driving a Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Auto (255/45 R20) on a combination of roads for 7,000 easy going miles
One of the best tyres! I had before pirelli scorpion zero, but they were too harsh. It felt like I had no tyres. Michelin 4s are so comfort. You have that feeling that everything is under control. On wet is like on dry, excellent
Helpful 23 - tyre reviewed on May 22, 2022
Given 94% while driving a Volkswagen Golf MK7 GTI (235/45 R17) on a combination of roads for 6,000 spirited miles
Really like the PS4S. For backroad spirited driving, they've been absolutely fantastic. I don't find them noisy, and wear on them has been quite reasonable. I used them for a day of open lapping at one point too, and they did really well on track. Last year, I decided to try the Firestone Indy 500 (aka Bridgestone Potenza RE003) because they're significantly cheaper, but they sucked in comparison and I swapped back to PS4S within a couple of weeks.
Helpful 26 - tyre reviewed on May 10, 2022
Given 96% while driving a Acura TSX (235/45 R17) on a combination of roads for 20,000 spirited miles
These are great tires, they become noisier as they age.
Helpful 20 - tyre reviewed on May 10, 2022
Given 90% while driving a BMW E46 M3 (225/45 R17) on a combination of roads for 10,000 spirited miles
A great tyre. They replaced the Michelin Pilot Super Sport on my E46 M3, which were also fantastic. I hope the PS5s come out soon. My tyre sizes were 255/35/r19 and 224/40/r19
Helpful 19 - tyre reviewed on May 10, 2022
Given 100% while driving a Infiniti G37 (/40 R19) on a combination of roads for 0 spirited miles
Ive had Hankook and Falken top tier tires and they were good. Hankook better than Falken but essentially I needed a better application for the type of power I have driving and also I would go to Canyons quite a bit so I needed something with more grip and where I felt confident. Michelin Pilot Super Sport and Pilot Sport 4s did it. The difference I felt almost immediately, the level of handling I felt like I could handle now and just the drive, I will absolutely buy again. The price will have me wait till I need to replace them, but you absolutely get what you paid for.
Helpful 24 - tyre reviewed on April 28, 2022
Given 100% while driving a Audi A6 2.0 TDI (255/35 R19) on mostly country roads for 230 spirited miles
This is an initial impression of the tire as I am finally happy to obtain these tires especially when switching from 16 inch wheels to 19 inch wheels so this should provide an excellent take. With reading some reviews about PS4S having marginal to no differences to PS4 I opted out for PS4S BMW star spec for improved subjective feel as I found regular PS4 lack in feedback under load and inert feel at yaw changes. Dry grip was exhilirating as hell. I am under impression this is a semi-slick tire with more tread! It bites onto the tarmac harder than PS4 ever could which is also heavily influenced by 255 width vs 205 width. Braking feels like having swapped 2 piston calipers with 6 piston calipers which felt similar with the way PS4 was but this tire transmits you every little detail of what you do with the car on the road leading it to inclusive fun as well as having the advantage of a wide tire. Wet wasn't as bad as I had expected, barely any slip unless really hooning it but that is mainly due to lack of heat during the single rainy day however it has so much stick I never felt nervous even when braking. I expected wet braking to be bad but it wasn't, only slightly worse than PS4! Handling is definitely the best I had experienced! It's all I ever seeked of and it really DOES feel like a SEMI-SLICK. While PS4 reduced body roll moderately the PS4S * reduced body roll significantly. It fears no corners at any speeds. The most flat experience I ever had in a car as it has no roll like a go-kart, completely surprised me and it feels so tight on the road. Dry handling is full neutral and can rotate to oversteer if you over-rev and break the balancing in corners. You're never reaching the limits of this tire in the streets ever. It killed the nose heaviness Audis are known for - push to understeer at adhesion is absolutely eliminated and rotates without hesitation whereas PS4 near the limit liked to push the understeer from neutral handling. Wet handling was neutral to oversteer but I hope to experience wet performance more. It was a lot more fun to throw my car around the wet roads but I believe PS4 is better in this field as the oversteer was a lot more controlled and allowed to mash the throttle at wet roads without any slip. Road feedback...like what the hell this is the best tire for it ever! The only tire that ever got a 10 from me. Previous highly scored tires in this category are PS4 and Blizzak DMV2 on another car which got an 8 and the current winter tires WinterContact TS870 P would get only a 7 much like Turanza T001 instead of a 5 this time around. This has all of it! It is so heavy even when variable steering overboosts the assist at low speeds it feels great and makes it fun to drive. On lower levels of assist it feels as heavy as or heavier than the steering I tried on E90 BMW 3 series. The inputs are sharp but quite progressive so it doesn't feel too darty but enough to drive like a maniac. You feel the road perfectly - all that force feedback, yaw changes, braking, slip angle, load up etc. The stiffening of the compound and strenghtening of the sidewalls is a definitive plus for this tire and vastly improved something that was missing in the regular PS4! Regular PS4 had decent heft but it was so lackadaisical it wasn't always fun to drive even if it inspired you to drive spirited. They simply were plagued by the sidewalls and only under limit they felt blissful. This tire massively begs to be pushed and communicates with the driver like no other, it gets me excited! It truly complements my upgraded sport suspension as if they were made for these tires. Can't comment on wear yet but comfort surprised me. For such a chatty tire, feeling so tight and heavy on the steering and with sheer amounts of grip it is shockingly comfortable. Noise is pretty low, I personally felt that regular PS4 tires were a little louder. Rides and drives smooth rounding up the bumps quite well for a 19 inch tire. I really expected worse from this profile of the tire but it does feel due to compound of the BMW star spec tire like you would have highly uprated springs on your car. I suspect PS4 on 19 inch feels exactly the same or similar but without the tight feel because I barely noticed any differences so no issues with comfort even on a wild tire like this! Overall this is the best tire I have ever owned and having the star spec allows it to be on its own level. This is the real deal it feels like a semi-slick even more than regular PS4. I rated it quite low than expected before so regular PS4 tire would get somewhere nearly a 9 from me this time around as it really was a fun tire with tremendous grip especially in the wet but it lacked ultimate handling and feedback due to their touring level sidewalls. This one is a perfect 100% for the time being as it deals with all the tasks and commands I throw at it. It eats the roads like no tire ever and the dynamics of it improved my car to levels I have never thought they were possible. BMW definitely knows how to tune their stuff. Came in with a moderate expectations ended up being highly optimistic. This will be educational for me to find out how they will last over long term because I really see no competition that can beat this tire. It really is a tire that has all-in-one deal and although I want to try other tires, ultimately Michelin has been consistently the best brand for me. Can't wait to find out how mindblowing the PS5S are going to be in the near future.
Helpful 27 - tyre reviewed on April 12, 2022
Given 66% while driving a Ford Mustang gt (/40 R19) on a combination of roads for 27,000 average miles
The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S came standard with my car, which is a daily driver car. I mostly drive on maintained paved road, and never took my car to a track. Being a summer tire, it is grippy enough that it gives me confidence that I will not lose traction on turns, specially if I'm travelling a little faster than I'm suppose to be. I have driven my car on wet and/or cold condition as well, and predictably, I had to be extra careful, specially on turns, for this tire can easily slip on a wet or cold surface. Overall, I am happy with this tire, but will I buy it again? Most probably no. Like I said earlier, I do not track my car. I would gladly swap the extra grip provided by this tire, for something that I can use on all weather, plus gives a longer tread life.
Helpful 20 - tyre reviewed on March 31, 2022