Michelin Primacy 4 Reviews - Page 4

Given 81% while driving a Nissan Qashqai (215/60 R17) on a combination of roads for 450 average miles
Rented a car in Spain and saw these on this car so thought to gather some subjective data for myself. I remember hearing from people I know that these tires are the ultimate standard so I tried them out on multiple instances and luckily had a chance to encounter various climate changes. I know that Qashqai is not a sport oriented vehicle but it doesn't mean that I won't try the dynamics of the tire out, coupled with it having electric power steering it was a handful to analyze what the tire was up to. Dry and wet handling: from what I have gathered so far it felt like a nerfed version of PS4 more oriented towards comfort which was felt immediately. I have no issues with grip as there was barely any difference other than a slight slip in both conditions. It didn't like cool weather as they felt like they were waxed with grease unlike PS4 and PS4S tire which made driving a little sketchy. Immediately the real differences are in handling and behavior in both wet and dry. In the dry it felt like the front end is always waiting on and on for the inputs and it seemed like it pushes an ample amount of understeer. There was no neutral handling in any dry or wet scenario. It always waited for that corner in order to understeer however it had a soft progressive slip angle letting you know how much grip you have but for my tastes the tire waits for inputs way too long hence making the drive fairly lazy for my tastes but for people who want a lot more relaxed handling I'd highly recommend this tire as it has no drama. PS4 was far more neutral and understeer only came in play when at the limits and PS4S is a whole different story. I just feel like this tire rides too much on the sidewalls making the handling a lot more wooly but acceleration and braking are first class for sure. It just needs better handling characteristics so forget this tire if you want a touring tire with handling characteristics. It feels more often than not like the tire is slipping from the tarmac as if you are about to lose control which didn't inspire confidence. It's best to be driven in a non-aggressive manner. Feedback: it's not as bad as I thought but it's not great either. Felt somewhat like PS4 in terms of heft on the steering so it offered some force feedback to be felt letting you anticipate corners when hooning this car. Problem with this tire is that it neuters all of the feedback with its soft and pliant compound that it didn't matter. Might as well offer no heft to a tire that has lazy driving dynamics and at moments made Qashqai drive in an annoying manner. Another annoying part is this slippery feel on the road as if you are about to skid out of the road. It floated way too much and using manufacturer's 2.3 bar front and 2.1 bar rear felt like an accident waiting to happen. Just like I remember with PS4 tire around 2.5 and above bars is recommended to nullify float which did help but it was a more exacerbated tire in terms of vagueness than regular PS4 which had little to no float, only at the limits. I for certain felt like I could take a nap while waiting for the tire to respond to inputs and feedback as they were ghastly slow. Comfort: I see why this tire is venerated as the ultimate touring tire. Lots of comfort and give in them. Pretty quiet and has some serious low rolling resistance, the car feels effortless to drive with no hassle much like PS4. I didn't feel like the comfort differences are that vast between Primacy 4 and PS4 as the only difference felt in the stiffness of a carcass which only removed the laziness of the drive itself and comfort was not compromised on PS4. Primacy 4 really doesn't fear any road irregularities and potholes, moreover this major amp in comfort ultimately came with a tradeoff which is the feel that the tires are always slipping away from the road but there are people who want this in their daily commute. Without a doubt I rate this tire the best so far in terms of comfort the other being winter tire Continental WinterContact TS860. Almost equal with Primacy 4 having the edge so nothing much to say really. It's a completely isolating and plushy ride and for those seeking comfort look no further than Primacy 4. Wear: all I can give is based on reviews and the declared mileage which is perfect 10. Overall: If one is not seeking the ultimate handling and communication from the car this is most likely the best touring tire in its class and I definitely enjoyed it despite some issues subjectively. What really holds back the tire is handling, communication with the road and the price. At least where I live Primacy 4 and PS4 are only set apart in price by 5-7 euros which really hurts this tire. It's too expensive when compared what kind of performance you can gain from other tire models at similar price points which will offer similar levels of comfort without sacrificing driving dynamics. I would have given it a much higher score for what it is if it wasn't for the research I made of its price. The dynamics of the tire really hurt its score despite its great acceleration and braking capabilities combined with refined comfort. If PS4S is a 100%, PS4 is 92% this may get around 80%. Great all round tire if only it wasn't priced with some other high performance and ultra high performance tires. It has no place at that bracket of category even if its other aspects are sublime.
Helpful 18 - tyre reviewed on April 18, 2022
Given 64% while driving a Ford (205/45 R17) on a combination of roads for 11,000 spirited miles
Came with a 2020 Fiesta ST-Line. If you're just pootling around, these are comfy, quiet, roll well and behave themselves in most conditions. Bit squirmy when below 10celcius though. However, I bought this Fiesta to have fun in. These are not a good choice of tyre. When pushing on, there's so little feedback from the steering and they never settle down in a long corner (that word squirmy again). I've nearly lost the back end twice and there was no indication prior that this was happening, but at least it was progressive and gave me time to think, have a cup of tea and gather it up (or maybe the electronics did). In North of England I want a secure dynamic tyre for year round fun. For me, this isn't it. If this were my mum's car, sure I'd definitely fit them again. I will probably stick on Goodyear Asymmetric 6 shortly.
Helpful 15 - tyre reviewed on April 5, 2022
Given 66% while driving a Volvo C30 1.6 Drive (225/40 R18) on mostly country roads for 8,000 spirited miles
I only bought these because at the time of purchase there was a good deal on, making a set of 4 cheaper than budgets. I could have paid a few £ more and had Pilot Sports, but I was keen to try something which is aimed more at comfort than ultimate handling given that this was to be my commuting car for 100 miles a day. I think I can sum these up as good, if rather boring, and frankly rather average tyres. In the dry they perform perfectly fine, I've been able to throw the C30 around hard enough and without finding any ditches along the way. In the wet they are noticeably poorer in performance than Pilot Sports when new, with an alarming tendency to pull violently into standing water, not too bad when new but by the time the tyres have hit 3mm it's pretty hairy on a wet road at speed, although wet braking has remained good throughout. These are just about life expired now after around 8000 miles on what is supposed to be a super economical puny engined diesel. Admittedly I make it work harder than Volvo ever intended, but all the same really was expecting a lot more life out of these. These were supposed to be A rated for grip and A rated for fuel efficiency according to the label. I can't say as I noticed any change in fuel consumption since fitting them, and that wet rating must have scraped through. Can't personally recommend them, though I think if driving at 45 everywhere as Volvo wanted me too they'd probably have excelled, but as it is it's back to Rainsports for me.
Helpful 19 - tyre reviewed on March 23, 2022
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Given 70% while driving a Lexus CT200h (215/50 R17) on a combination of roads for 30 average miles
Heavy/rubbery steering feel. Noisy on certain road surfaces. Not the most comfortable tyre. Excellent dry and wet grip. I do many miles per year, so I can’t recommend them purely due to NVH and steering feel. Obviously this depends on your vehicle - some tyres don’t suit particular vehicles.
Helpful 17 - tyre reviewed on March 5, 2022
Given 80% while driving a Hyundai i30 (225/45 R17) on a combination of roads for 1,000 average miles
I use these tyres in wet and dry. I bought them because they were considered as top. However they are not as great as they say. They are good, they are premium, they are comfortable, reliable, but they are not so amazing as they say.
Helpful 23 - tyre reviewed on March 1, 2022
Given 48% while driving a Skoda (225/40 R18) on a combination of roads for 500 average miles
They are comfortable and quiet, and when pushed they grip well. But there is very little feedback from the road and feel disconnected to what’s happening. Have tried different pressures and checked alignment but no improvement. Fuel economy is also worse by a few mpg than previous tyres. Wouldn’t recommend or buy again and I’m considering replacing which will make this an expensive mistake.
Helpful 15 - tyre reviewed on February 21, 2022
Given 87% while driving a Nissan Elgrand Rider 3.5L (215/60 R17) on mostly town for 14,330 spirited miles
Far better than my previous Dunlop tyres: Lemans V . Better grip, better comfort, better traction. A bit expensive but it's great so no problems
Helpful 18 - tyre reviewed on February 12, 2022
Given 93% while driving a Peugeot 3008 (225/55 R18) on mostly motorways for 25,000 easy going miles
Excellent tires, 33k KH and it behaves excellent, very neutral on the road no understeer or oversteer. Very confident on all conditions but on wet seems is a bit slippery but nothing to worry. Wear is excellent, it started showing a bit of wear on the side but nothing on the main thread. I would keep it for another year (3rd) and most probably I will be around 55k KH and I am planning to change it. From the wear till now I do not expect any issue to reach this milestone. Would I buy it again ? Not sure depends, is an excellent tyre but pricy, I can find conti or Goodyear for less and I will get most probably same behaviour… if next year I find it in a similar price to the other two I will choose it again otherwise will be the cheaper of those 3 manufacturers.
Helpful 12 - tyre reviewed on January 30, 2022
Given 81% while driving a Alfa Romeo 147 (215/45 R17) on mostly country roads for 14,000 spirited miles
I had a pair of these on a,n Alfa 147 with a pair of Michelin pilot sport 4 on the other axle. The grip is lacking slightly compared to the sports, I did have to swap the axles as I had the grippy pilots on the front originally, a couple of slides around a tight bend later I swapped the grippy tyres to the rear! Wear on the primacy 4is far superior however, quite spirited driving up and down twisty mountain roads has seen to the pilots after just 8500 miles whilst the primacy still showing around 3 mm with 14000 miles, both tyres are good in the wet although the pilots definitely excel more. Comfort on either tyre is good and road noise is less than engine noise so can’t complain. Handling is more than adequate earning me a chat with the rozzers one day, he was upset that I drove up the mountain faster than he could so informed me I was driving too fast for the conditions, how that was as I remained in my lane all the way up and he was using both lanes to try and keep up I’m not quite sure
Helpful 12 - tyre reviewed on January 29, 2022
Given 87% while driving a Suzuki SX4 1.6 LITRE PETROL (195/65 R15) on a combination of roads for 200 average miles
Great tires. First and foremost the grip is incredible in both dry and wet. Very comfortable ride, the tires absorb small bumps and road imperfections very well, made the car much more comfortable. Much quieter than anything else I had on this car (Toyo's and Dunlop's). The car doesn't feel "floaty" at all like others have reviewed, but the tires are very comfort oriented so the sidewall and tread are soft and so the tire feels a bit vague under aggressive cornering. It doesn't mean that they lack grip, just that the steering wheel feels a bit vague and not direct. So if you are looking for a sporty and direct tire look for something else. As I said there's plenty of grip and the tires feel quite progressive at the limit, there's plenty of warning before they completely "let go".
Helpful 14 - tyre reviewed on January 28, 2022
Given 90% while driving a Mercedes Benz 2010 W204 C180 Kompressor (225/45 R17) on a combination of roads for 51 average miles
81,810-km on a single set of tyres. They're great in the wet and even better in the dry. Quiet, comfortable, yet precise, responsive, and amazing value for money. Changed the old set out just as the wear bars are level with the tread surface. Awesome tyres for use in Singapore and Malaysian highways and trunk roads. I'm wondering how Michelin is going to outdo Primacy 4 with e.Primacy.
Helpful 17 - tyre reviewed on January 22, 2022
Given 100% while driving a Audi A3 1.8T sport (225/45 R17) on a combination of roads for 6,500 spirited miles
11/10 Tyre, I'm amazed by it, performs incredbily well, very nice feedback from the road, never slipped in heavy rain conditions, not noisy at all and they are also one of the longest lasting tyres in this class. Would always buy again.
Helpful 10 - tyre reviewed on December 7, 2021